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A Founding Quote

Posted by Godefroi on April 15, 2010

Inspired by a post at Doctor Bulldog and Ronin, highlighting the idiocy of today’s Liberal (in the worst sense of the word) judiciary; and by my observations of Americans’ general and unfortunate ignorance of history, I bring you a Presidential Proclamation:

Whereas the Congress of the United States, by a joint resolution of the two Houses, have signified a request, that a day may be recommended, to be observed by the People of the United States, with religious solemnity, as a day of public Humiliation, and Prayer; and whereas such a recommendation will enable the several religious denominations and societies so disposed, to offer, at one and the same time, their common vows and adorations to Almighty God, on the solemn occasion produced by the war, in which he has been pleased to permit the injustice of a foreign power to involve these United States;

I do therefore recommend the third Thursday in August next, as a convenient day to be set apart for the devout purposes of rendering to the Sovereign of the Universe and the Benefactor of mankind, the public homage due to his holy attributes; of acknowledging the transgressions which might justly provoke the manifestations of His divine displeasures; of seeking His merciful forgiveness, His assistance in the great duties of repentance and amendment; and especially of offering fervent supplications, that in the present season of calamity and war, He would take the American People under his peculiar care and protection; that he would guide their public councils, animate their patriotism, and bestow His blessing on their arms; that He would inspire all nations with a love of justice and of concord, and with a reverence for the unerring precept of our holy religion [which religion do you think he had in mind…Secularism perhaps?], to do to others as they would require others to do to them [oh wait…which religion teaches that?]; and finally, that , turning the hearts of our enemies from the violence and injustice which sway their councils against us, He would hasten a restoration of the blessings of Peace.

Given at Washington the 9th day of July, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twelve.

James Madison.

Not only was it written by the Architect of the Constitution and the man who proposed the Bill of Rights (First Amendment anyone?), but was nearly coincident with the anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Food for thought.

Big Thank-You to Wallbuilders for source material!

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What If?

Posted by Godefroi on April 6, 2010

Hypothetically speaking, what if those crazy “Christianists” took over the government of the Unites States. 

And again hypothetically, what if the new So-Far-Right-They’re-Behind-the-Sunrise Congress appropriated government money (that’s taxes, for any uninformed) and granted – say, $38 Million* – to build a new church somewhere? 

And what if, based on that success, they proceeded to grant a $30-Million-per-year-for-seven-years* boon to a Catholic Priest, SPECIFICALLY  to assist him in evangelizing, and threw in another $89 Million* to build a church?

And then what if, getting even crazier, the Congress started GRANTING LAND to religious institutions, again specifically for evangelism or church-building?

Yeah…what if Congress did all those things?  Those would all be violations of the First Amendment ‘Establishment Clause’ (wall of separation, and all that) right?

Just wondering.

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Point to Ponder

Posted by Godefroi on July 22, 2009

This is a short excerpt from David Barton’s little book America:  To Pray or Not To Pray (pp 15-19 in the version I had).  Emphases are mine.

…eight of the nine Justices on the 1962-63 Supreme Court [that is, the Warren Court that Teh One said didn’t go far enough – GdB] had been appointed to the Court following an extended history of political rather than judicial experience. Chief Justice Earl Warren had been the Governor of California for ten years prior to his appointment; Justice Hugo Black had been a U. S. Senator for ten years; Justice Felix Frankfurter had been an assistant to the Secretary of Labor and a founding member of the ACLU; Justice Arthur Goldberg had been the Secretary of Labor; Justice William Douglas was chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission prior to his appointment. All of the Justices except one had similar political backgrounds. Justice Potter Stewart, a federal judge for four years prior to his appointment, was the only member of the Court with extended federal Constitutional experience prior to his appointment. Interestingly, he was also the only Justice who objected to the removal of prayer and Bible reading.  June 25, 1962, in Engel v. Vitale,  the Supreme Court [Warren court] forbade the inclusion of religious activities in major activities of daily student life by striking down school prayer and Bible reading. Never before in the history of our nation had any branch of our government taken such a stand.

Eight out of the nine “justices” on the Warren Court were UNQUALIFIED for the job.  They were not Constitutional scholars – not even JUDGES – but rather politicians.

Today’s courts frequently state that they are compelled by previous decisions to rule in a certain manner, the so-called “Wall of Separation” doctrine being one of them.  Interestingly,

…in Engel v. Vitale, only last year, these principles [the separation of prayer from the classroom] were so universally recognized that the Court, without citation of single case … reaffirmed them. (School Dist. of Abington Township v. Schempp; 374 U.S. 203, 220-221, 1963)

Did you catch that?  The Engel case which banned school prayer did not cite even ONE precedent to back up the ruling.  Stare decisis has become a handy excuse to keep Constitutionally-questionable policies and practices in place.

Let me suggest to any visitors here to read Mr. Barton’s book cited above, or even better one called “Original Intent”.  You will see that the reason the Warren court did not cite any precedents is that the precedents were all against them.

Just something to think about.

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Question

Posted by Godefroi on June 26, 2009

It’s time to test your knowledge of history.  🙂

Who said the following (emphasis is mine):

The First Amendment, however, does not say that in every and all respects there shall be a separation of Church and State …. Otherwise the state and religion would be aliens to each other-hostile, suspicious, and even unfriendly.

I’ll be taking guesses thru the weekend.

UPDATE: No takers eh?  Bummer.

Anyway, the answer is THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT, in Zorach v. Clauson, 343 U.S. 306.

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