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A Question of Ignorance

Posted by Godefroi on March 12, 2009

Once again, I’m “inspired” by the Headline Thingy at Hot Air.

This time, it’s related to an interview of one of the early and strong proponents of embryonic stem cell usage/research, former President Clinton.  He was questioned whether the controversy will die down or not – betraying the perspective of the interviewer in the process – that is, the only way for the controversy to diminish is for (in his words) “people [to] come around”.  Obviously he thinks the hubbub is hogwash…not surprising since he works for CNN.  They hire the most interesting people.

But I digress.  Clinton’s statements included the following:

I think – the answer is I think that we’ll work it through. If – particularly if it’s done right. If it’s obvious that we’re not taking embryos that can – that under any conceivable scenario would be used for a process that would allow them to be fertilized and become little babies, and I think if it’s obvious that we’re not talking about some science fiction cloning of human beings, then I think the American people will support this….

…frozen embryos are basically going to be discarded, because they’re not going to be fertilized

…it’s a pro-life decision to use an embryo that’s frozen and never going to be fertilized

But those committees need to be really careful to make sure if they don’t want a big storm to be stirred up here, that any of the embryos that are used clearly have been placed beyond the pale of being fertilized before their use

There are a large number of embryos that we know are never going to be fertilized

…they’re not going to fool with any embryos where there’s any possibility, even if it’s somewhat remote, that they could be fertilized and become human beings[um, hello?  They ARE human — what else could they be, crocodiles?  Great tactical wording, no?]

Do you see the egregious error here?  Or, perhaps I’m giving the Honorable Mr. Clinton more credit that he deserves, and it’s not an error but an intentional misdirection.

For anyone not catching on, I’ll defer to the dictionary, to wit:


  1. The fertilized egg of a vertebrate animal following cleavage.
  2. In humans, the prefetal product of conception from implantation through the eighth week of development.

You see, dear Reader, there is no embryo until AFTER fertilization.  I’m assuming here that Clinton does not understand that…which in itself says much about the intellectual calibre of our esteemed leaders.  I’m giving Mr. Clinton the benefit of the doubt here.

As an aside, I’d really like to quibble with the dictionary’s duration of the embryonic stage.  I’ve seen how human an 8-week-old pre-born appears…it’s dishonest in my opinion to still use a term which connotes an unrecognizable clump of cells.

Anyway, the same grace offered to Mr. Clinton can not, however, be extended to Mr. Gupta…or rather DR. Gupta.  Yes, he’s a PHYSICIAN.  Obviously he’s quite aware that an embryo does not exist without fertilization.  Since he did not offer a correction, he must be willingly propagating the misinformation, presumably to further the agenda to which I alluded above. 

All this leads to the “question” in the post title.  How many of those who support the idea of embryonic stem cell research believe that the cells are actually harvested from some kind of free, unfertilized tissue that no one would have use for anyway?  Would they still be supportive if they understood that these ARE “fertilized and [would] become little babies”?  And how much effort is there to keep the truth of the humanity of these embryos hidden?

Just how ignorant are we?


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