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Kenya Reflections: Part 1 (On Being Different)

Posted by Godefroi on June 24, 2010

Happy, Hopeful

Thoughts from my wife, God bless her:

“When I was in Kenya, I didn’t blend very well. In fact I was an anomaly everywhere I went. I saw a few more white women in Kisumu, but they were just passing through, and so was I. In the villages and schools we visited with people, and most of them were glad we were there. I tried to meet people and just be friendly, but language was often difficult. Surprisingly, it seemed to me that the biggest barrier was shyness. I guess it makes sense that I would not be shy after having traveled so far to visit with the Christians of Kenya, but they were often shy of being met. I was a curiosity, a source of blessing, and a window to the world beyond, but I was unfamilar and imposing. I bungled customs; trying to take the basin from the woman who held it while I washed my hands (I figured it was her to turn wash so we could eat together), sitting in the middle of the church instead of in the seats that had been reserved for the “honored guests,” insisting on helping to carry water jugs with some other women. The Kenyans often wished to maintain a respectful distance – not all of them, and not in an unfriendly way – and I spent the first few days crashing recklessly from one awkward situation to another. I had traveled a long way to close that distance, not reinforce it, but as the week wore on I became more accustomed both to the part the Kenyans expected me to play and to being laughed at when I just didn’t quite “fit” somehow.

Now that I am home, it is clear to me that this was the greatest blessing and revelation of the journey for me personally. Yes, we saw scores of people dedicate themselves to Christ nearly everywhere we went (literally SCORES, as in multiple groups of 20). Yes, we witnessed miraculous healing. God even allowed me the assurance that a young girl was ushered into the kingdom of heaven after she died on the side of the road. None of these things are commonplace, and all of them are powerful. But far and away the most powerful experience for me is the first hand knowledge that I can be that different and still be me.

I remember when I wrestled with the decision to let God lead me. I wondered, as I think most do, how I could do God’s will and still be me? If He had jurisdiction over everything, did I get to pick anything I did? God is so big, I thought that I would just be swallowed up and become some kind of religious automoton. I couldn’t see how I could let God be My Lord in practice without losing something of myself, as if lordship over myself was the essence of who I am. This is why one must follow Christ by faith. It isn’t until after you give God the benefit of the doubt and throw caution to the wind that you realize those fears are completely unfounded. No one can tell you how it is – you either give God the keys and see how it is, or you don’t and you continue to wonder.

At any rate, being different is often uncomfortable. In Kenya, I didn’thave a choice – I was different by definition. Even if I spent years in Kenya and immersed myself in the cultures and languages, I would still stick out like a sore thumb. But in the States, we have to choose to be different, and it’s hard. Even Jesus acknowledged how difficult it was for Him to go back to the people He had grown up with and be different. There are understood expectations. There are assumed modes of conduct. We are completely unconscious of them until we feel the pull to be different. Then even the smallest changes seem to bump up against an insurmountable barrier. Being different feels forced – imposed – because we have to choose it andit’s a lot of work. To go to Kenya and find that “different” can be a partof my identity rather than an addition to it, was a real eye-opener. For the first time I realized that “different” and “same” are definitions imposed on people from outside. “Different” is dependent upon the surroundings and has nothing to do with the individual. It has no meaning what so ever without some outside point of reference. Clearly that outside point of reference has no real significance to me personally. I am the same person in Kenya and the States. Why should I shun being “different”? What difference does it make?

What is it about people that we continually see ourselves through the eyes of others? Why do we define ourselves in terms of external factors? Are we so ignorant of what or who we are? Shouldn’t we know ourselves more intimately than our neighbors do? Why then do we look to them in order to assess ourselves? I have now had the first-hand experience of being awkwardly “different” fora week and yet being the “same” person the whole time. It’s embarrassing that I had to travel almost half-way around the world to see how weak those words are. I look around me and see some people striving for “sameness.” Surely they are really after something more solid – unity or fellowship perhaps. Others go out of their way to be shockingly “different,” even if they make sure to do it in groups. Again, they must be looking for something more – maybe recognition or a sense of power. No wonder being different feels forced or imposed – it is. It’s a definition imposed on the individual as a result of comparison with the group. It’s a meaningless assessment of who someone is.

We saw all those people come to Christ because they encountered the Truth about Him and it was compelling. We witnessed salvation and healing because of the power of the faith that followed. In America, those experiences are different. I think about the joy I felt at being a part of it, and I hope I can hang on to “different” even now that I am home. The Truth is still setting me free.”

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48 Hours

Posted by Godefroi on April 28, 2010

Wow – only two more days til we take off, to bring God’s Word to hungry believers in Kenya.  Please pray for our mission, and safe return.

Kisumu, Kenya

Kisumu, Kenya

Asante Sana!

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A Founding Quote

Posted by Godefroi on April 15, 2010

Inspired by a post at Doctor Bulldog and Ronin, highlighting the idiocy of today’s Liberal (in the worst sense of the word) judiciary; and by my observations of Americans’ general and unfortunate ignorance of history, I bring you a Presidential Proclamation:

Whereas the Congress of the United States, by a joint resolution of the two Houses, have signified a request, that a day may be recommended, to be observed by the People of the United States, with religious solemnity, as a day of public Humiliation, and Prayer; and whereas such a recommendation will enable the several religious denominations and societies so disposed, to offer, at one and the same time, their common vows and adorations to Almighty God, on the solemn occasion produced by the war, in which he has been pleased to permit the injustice of a foreign power to involve these United States;

I do therefore recommend the third Thursday in August next, as a convenient day to be set apart for the devout purposes of rendering to the Sovereign of the Universe and the Benefactor of mankind, the public homage due to his holy attributes; of acknowledging the transgressions which might justly provoke the manifestations of His divine displeasures; of seeking His merciful forgiveness, His assistance in the great duties of repentance and amendment; and especially of offering fervent supplications, that in the present season of calamity and war, He would take the American People under his peculiar care and protection; that he would guide their public councils, animate their patriotism, and bestow His blessing on their arms; that He would inspire all nations with a love of justice and of concord, and with a reverence for the unerring precept of our holy religion [which religion do you think he had in mind…Secularism perhaps?], to do to others as they would require others to do to them [oh wait…which religion teaches that?]; and finally, that , turning the hearts of our enemies from the violence and injustice which sway their councils against us, He would hasten a restoration of the blessings of Peace.

Given at Washington the 9th day of July, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twelve.

James Madison.

Not only was it written by the Architect of the Constitution and the man who proposed the Bill of Rights (First Amendment anyone?), but was nearly coincident with the anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

Food for thought.

Big Thank-You to Wallbuilders for source material!

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What If?

Posted by Godefroi on April 6, 2010

Hypothetically speaking, what if those crazy “Christianists” took over the government of the Unites States. 

And again hypothetically, what if the new So-Far-Right-They’re-Behind-the-Sunrise Congress appropriated government money (that’s taxes, for any uninformed) and granted – say, $38 Million* – to build a new church somewhere? 

And what if, based on that success, they proceeded to grant a $30-Million-per-year-for-seven-years* boon to a Catholic Priest, SPECIFICALLY  to assist him in evangelizing, and threw in another $89 Million* to build a church?

And then what if, getting even crazier, the Congress started GRANTING LAND to religious institutions, again specifically for evangelism or church-building?

Yeah…what if Congress did all those things?  Those would all be violations of the First Amendment ‘Establishment Clause’ (wall of separation, and all that) right?

Just wondering.

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Resurrection Sunday!

Posted by Godefroi on April 4, 2010

But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.

While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing; and as the women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living One among the dead? He is not here, but He has risen…”

He Is NOT HERE!!

Hallelujah!!

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Bulletin of Christian Persecution

Posted by Godefroi on March 20, 2009

America

March 6, 2009
Kalamazoo, Michigan
The Muslim Students Association protests a speech by former terrorist/convert to Christianity, but entertains a Holocaust denier .

March 11, 2009
Washington DC
Five senators sent a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in order to call attention to the plight of Assyrians.

March 11, 2009
Chicago, IL
Muslims hacked the “Christians on Facebook” group and changed its name to “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.”

March 12, 2009
Washington DC
US lawmakers pressure Obama to follow up on campaign statements and label the 1915 massacre of Armenians as genocide in light of his expected trip to Turkey.

March 13, 2009
Alexandria, VA
A Saudi academy revises textbooks so as to omit hatred and incitement of violence toward Jews and Christians, but enough sensitive material remains to fuel criticism. 3/12.  (Update: Rep. Frank Wolf has called for an investigation 3/13).

Africa

March 4, 2009
Abu-Korkas, Egypt
A lawyer was given a 6-month prison sentence after telling a judge that she would complain to the Attorney General following unfair treatment.  She had previously been beaten and stripped for exposing the collusion of the police and Muslim Brotherhood lawyers.

Mar. 5, 2009
Bauchi, Nigeria
International Christian Concern has called for an investigation into the recent violence against Christians.

March 5, 2009
Garissa, Kenya
Authorities hold up the reconstruction of a Christian church in order to avoid conflict with Muslims after it was burned down.

March 6, 2009
Kenya and Nigeria
Christians await justice after suffering violence, displacement, and destruction of their homes and churches.

March 6, 2009
Dmas Meet-Ghamr, Egypt
Rumors of a Muslim girl being romantically involved with a Coptic boy erupt into violence, riots, and two deaths, one by being burned alive.

March 6, 2009
Cairo, Egypt
A Christian man was stabbed to death following rumors that his son was having an affair with a Muslim girl.  

March 8, 2009
Dama, Egypt
The town was placed under curfew following inter-religious clashes which killed two Christians.

March 8, 2009
Cairo, Egypt
A former Muslim who converted to Christianity has gone into hiding after receiving death threats.  Lawyers had demanded that he be executed for apostacy.

March 8, 2009
Roman Christians of the Center, Egypt
Security forces raided the homes of Copts and arrested more than 20 under the pretext of a weapons search and without bringing charges.

March 9, 2009
Port Sudan, Sudan
Hassan Al-Turabi has been released after two months’ detention after the arrest of Omar Bashir.  Turabi, the spiritual mentor in Bashir’s regime, was instrumental in the genocide of Christians and animists in South Sudan during the 21-year civil war.

March 9, 2009
Tripoli, Libya
Four converts from Islam to Christianity were detained and tortured for weeks.

March 10, 2009
Eritrea
Religious freedom and quality of life continues to decline in the “veritable prison” in which many Christians are actually imprisoned for their faith.  Video here .

March 12, 2009
Egypt
The first court appeal has been brought in order to challenge the restriction on reconversion to Christianity from Islam, which is legal under one section of the legal code, illegal under another, and thus far impossible in practice .

March 12, 2009
Egypt
The Coptic Church has launched a probe into the recent ‘trend’ of Copts getting killed after rumors of romantic relationships with Muslim girls.

March 12, 2009
Kafr Naim, Egypt
Another Christian was murdered for ostensibly harassing a Muslim woman.  His body was thrown into the Nile after 9 days of torture.

March 12, 2009
Morocco
Moroccans feel that Christian proselytizing is threatening their “spiritual security and religious identity.”

Asia

March, 2009
Iraq
A man was tortured in prison for 7 months for refusing to renounce Christianity after his conversion.  Extremists target Christians. (Video). 

March 5, 2009
Islamabad, Pakistan
A Christian girl’s abduction, rape, and attempted forced conversion is part of a growing trend.

March 6, 2009
Singowali, Pakistan

One person was killed and 17 were injured when Muslim militants open fire on a church.  They also desecrated the church, attacked homes, and threatened the Christians with more violence if they did not leave town.

March 6, 2009
Uzbekistan
Christian citizens are systematically denied exit visas and fined for religious activity .

March 7, 2009
Baghdad, Iraq
Churches are being bombed, families thrown out of homes, businesses robbed, and people abducted, threatened, and extorted in areas where Christians and Muslims used to live in relative peace.

March 7, 2009
Middle East
80 activists call on the US to pressure Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia to respect democracy and human rights.

March 7, 2009
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
A court ruled that a Christian man given an Islamic name at birth could legally become a Christian, which was a rare victory.

March 9, 2009
Mosul, Iraq
Between late September and mid-October more than half of Mosul’s Christian families fled in response to a “three-week, well-organized terror campaign targeting Christians,” including murders, bombings of homes, harassment, and printed death threats.

March 10, 2009
Middle East
Christians suffer “extreme deprivation” in Iraq and “rapid attrition” in the Middle East more generally.

March 10, 2009
Pakistan
The Long March is not for Christians.

March 10, 2009
Saudi Arabia
A pastor who was imprisoned for holding mass in a private residence has started a prayer group for King Abdullah and religious freedom in Saudi Arabia.

March 10, 2009
Indonesia
The nation is trying to tackle the issue of where to send the mastermind of the 2000 attacks against Christian churches and buildings and the 2002 Bali bombings upon his release from Guantanamo.

March 10, 2009
Iraq
Assyrians were prevented from voting in the recent elections. (From Liberal Matters magazine).

March 10, 2009
Iran
A Christian couple who were arrested for apostacy from Islam were released.  Christians increasingly face persecution in Iran. (Video).

March 10, 2009
Philippines
The 95% Christian nation has filed for observer status in the OIC.

March 11, 2009
Kyrgyzstan
A new law was adopted in January which outlaws missionary activities and proselytism.

March 11, 2009
Malaysia
Christians continue the battle over the use of the word “Allah.”

March 11, 2009
Lahore, Pakistan
Christian rights activists are hopeful that they may be able to free Saba Younis, a 13-year-old Christian girl who was abducted, then forced to convert and marry her kidnapper.

March 11, 2009
Lahore, Pakistan
A Christian chief of a hostel for nursing students faced dismissal following death threats for allowing Christian students to pray on the premises.

March 11, 2009
Almaty, Kazakhstan
A Unification Church missionary who was jailed for teaching a class on original sin was freed Wednesday after paying a fine, in light of the government’s nixing of a restrictive law on religious freedom on Feb. 11 under international pressure.

March 12, 2009
Tajikistan
The new Religion Law, which explicitly favors the Hanafi Muslim sect, was adopted.  It restricts religious leadership, worship, literature, belief, structures, and education of children.  Its text is unavailable to the public.

March 12, 2009
Jaramana, Syria
A 7-year-old boy has gone missing from his Assyrian school after repeated threats to his family and police are not conducting a serious investigation.  The official website is here .

March 12, 2009
Iraq
“Christians in Iraq are finished” and continue to flee Iraq to bordering countries and Lebanon.  Many had previously fled to Kurdistan but were not safe there.

March 13, 2009
Sarghoda, Pakistan
A Christian teacher was fired and two students suspended after allegations that they “humiliated Islam.” 

March 13, 2009
Rawalpindi, Pakistan
A Christian man has been charged with “abetting blasphemy” after a charge of blaspheming Islam was dropped. 

March 13, 2009
Malaysia
An Islamic Council tries to have Agnes Monica’s song declared haram (i.e., illegal under Islamic law).  The song uses the word ‘Allah ‘ in reference to Jesus.

March 13, 2009
Kirkuk, Iraq
Chaldeans celebrate the anniversary of the martyrdom of Archbishop Paulo Faraj Rahho and all Iraqi martyrs.

Europe

March 5, 2009
Georgia
Christian crosses are to be removed from Azerbaijani-populated villages.

March 5, 2009
Rome, Italy
Iraqi, Iranian, and Turkish Christians are urged to remain in the Middle East at a meeting of religious leaders so that people do not get the wrong idea about Islam.

March 7, 2009
Kartmin, Turkey
The battle over the world’s oldest monastery tests Turkey’s tolerance of minorities.  “They want to make us all go away,” says Bishop Aktas.  A marathon was held in Holland to draw attention to the case on 3/6.

March 9, 2009
Istanbul, Turkey
A long-hidden document dealing with the Armenian Holocaust is uncovered and met with silence and denial.

March 9, 2009
Kosovo
New information has come to light regarding the harvesting and trafficking of Serbian organs in Suva Reka and Albania in 1999.

March 9, 2009
Gnjilane, Kosovo
The police attacked 300 Serbs after they demanded that the government provide them electricity.  Video here .

March 10, 2009
UK
Prominent Muslims mock a dying cancer patient because she is Christian.

March 10, 2009
Birmingham, UK
Catholics are outraged after the Catholic Archbishop defends the use of a Catholic university chapel for the celebration of the Prophet Mohammed’s birthday.

March 10, 2009
Serbia
A study has determined that Serbs are still in danger of explosions from cluster bombs.

March 12, 2009
UK
The Barnabas Fund has made a plea to help the Christians of Pakistan.

March 15, 2009
UK
A Christian convert who has been on the run in fear for her life tells her story, which she says is fairly common.

March 15, 2009
UK

A Minister was beaten after clashing with Muslims on his TV Gospel show. Three men ripped off his cross and threatened to break his legs. 

 

H/T:  Bill Warner

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Predictions

Posted by Godefroi on March 10, 2009

A mostly doom-and-gloom perspective of the future of Evangelical Christianity.  An excerpt, with my emphases and interjections:

We are on the verge – within 10 years – of a major collapse of evangelical Christianity. This breakdown will follow the deterioration of the mainline Protestant world and it will fundamentally alter the religious and cultural environment in the West.

Within two generations, evangelicalism will be a house deserted of half its occupants. {After that whole generation had been gathered to their fathers, another generation grew up, who knew neither the LORD nor what he had done for Israel. – Judges 24:10} (Between 25 and 35 percent of Americans today are Evangelicals.) In the “Protestant” 20th century, Evangelicals flourished. But they will soon be living in a very secular and religiously antagonistic 21st century. 

This collapse will herald the arrival of an anti-Christian chapter of the post-Christian West.   Intolerance of Christianity will rise to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes, and public policy will become hostile toward evangelical Christianity, seeing it as the opponent of the common good. {Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me – Matthew 24:9} 

Millions of Evangelicals will quit. {At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other – MT 24:10} Thousands of ministries will end. Christian media will be reduced, if not eliminated. Many Christian schools will go into rapid decline. I’m convinced the grace and mission of God will reach to the ends of the earth. But the end of evangelicalism as we know it is close. {Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold -MT 24:12}

His reasoning can be found at the Christian Science Monitor article (H/T: Headline thingy at Hot Air), or the author’s blog Internet Monk.

For further consideration, let me suggest reading Philip Jenkins’ “The Lost History of Christianity“, which documents such utter destruction of the once-flourishing church in the Middle East that Christianity – BORN in the Middle East – is now mostly considered a Western heresy.

The happy thought amid the sobering prediction: “At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.”

Yes!!  Come Lord Jesus!

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Persecution of the Day

Posted by Godefroi on December 15, 2008

BANGLADESH: CHRISTIAN FAMILY BEATEN, CUT – AND FACES CHARGES

Muslim neighbors, local council threaten to burn home if they file assault case.

MALUMGHAT, Bangladesh, December 8 (Compass Direct News) – The harassment that Bangladeshi converts from Islam face from Muslim neighbors in this southeastern area near Cox’s Bazar can take serious turns – as it did last month, when an attack by about a dozen Muslims left a Christian family with machete wounds. Confident that no police would side with Christian converts from Islam, the Muslims in Chakaria town, near Cox’s Bazar 380 kilometers (236 miles) southeast of Dhaka, later filed false charges of assault against the wounded and limping Christians, family members said. Laila Begum, a 45-year-old Christian convert from Islam, said that on Nov. 1 some 10 to 15 Muslim neighbors demanded 200 taka (US$3) [jizya – GdB]. Begum told Compass she had borrowed 2,000 taka (US$30) last year from a Muslim neighbor and this year paid her back with interest. She told the group of Muslim neighbors that she would pay no more, she said, and they began beating her. “Suddenly they got equipped with sticks, iron rods, knives and machetes,” she said. “Several places of my head were lacerated by machetes and iron rods. They also cut two of my fingers when I tried to fend off their attacks. They beat me in several places of my body by iron rods and sticks.” The family informed local governing council members about the attack, but they demanded 20,000 taka (US$300) to settle the matter and also threatened them, she said. “The local council officials also told us that if we file any case in the police station, our houses will be burnt to ashes and we will be evicted from the locality.”

Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subduedQur’an 9:29

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Who is That Prophet? (Part the last)

Posted by Godefroi on December 3, 2008

Terminus of debate.

Godefroi,

If you believe the trinity, then If ‘another’ comforter was to come, the it cannot be the holy spirit as it would already be there.

“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you Another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.” John 14: 16

The emphasis here is on the word “ANOTHER,” an other, a different one, an additional one, but of the same kind, yet distinctly different from the first. Who is then the first Comforter? The Christian world is unanimous that in this case the speaker himself — Jesus Christ (pbuh) is the first Comforter; then the other, the one to follow must be of like nature, subject to the same conditions of hunger, thirst, fatigue, sorrow and death.

And also, that New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of ‘ONE LIKE MOSES’, refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:

“…….ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,…THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST.” (Matthew 17:11-13).

However, When questions of 1) ART THOU THE CHRIST?, 2) ART THOU ELIAS?, 3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET? were posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite- “ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO.” (John 1:21) The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET. ..and who was ‘THAT PROPHET?

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto
thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words “the Prophet”, or “that Prophet” occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that ‘that prophet’ – ‘the prophet like Moses’ – “LIKE UNTO THEE”, we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus!

“In Christian religions that trace their roots to belief in the Nicene Creed, the Holy Spirit (Hebrew: רוח הקודש Ruah haqodesh; Greek: Άγιον Πνεύμα; Latin: Spiritus Sanctus; also called the Holy Ghost) is the third consubstantial Person of the Holy Trinity or the Godhead. As such, Christians with a definitional basis in the Nicene Creed view the Holy Spirit as God himself or the Breath of God, a form of God, or a manifestation of God. Other Christians which do not rely on the Nicene Creed believe the Holy Spirit to be one of three main entities (including God the Father and Jesus Christ).”

As Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael, then he is of the brethren of Moses who descends from Isaacs. Ishmael and Isaacs were brothers. therefore it is not about you tellling me how it is considered, it is about what they were.

So what are the similarities? Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course. Moses and Muhummed married and begat children. Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God’s creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment – HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day, and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people. Moses and
Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths. Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth. Therefore, Muhummed is like Moses.

If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs – so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.’ (Genesis 16:12). ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- ‘FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN’.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the ‘children of Israel’ or from ‘among themselves’, but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!

“The prophecy proceeds further:’…….AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH…….’ History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue: ‘IQRA’ which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were ‘Put into his mouth’, and he uttered them. The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusion: ‘AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.’ (Deut. 18:18). In the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-’…..MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME,” In whose name is Muhummed speaking….. “IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.” Quran 113, “IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL” Quran 112, 111, 110, etc. Every chapter of the Holy Qur’an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.’

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto
thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto
them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

Does this look like a copy/paste from some other source to anyone but me?  Anyway, my response below, which went unanswered.

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Who is That Prophet? (Part 2)

Posted by Godefroi on November 25, 2008

Continuing the debate started yesterday.  Same warning applies.  🙂

Godefroi,
1. “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs – so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.’ (Genesis 16:12). ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- ‘FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN’.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the ‘children of Israel’ or from ‘among themselves’, but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

“The prophecy proceeds further:’…….AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH…….’ History tells us that Muhummed was forty years of age. He was in a cave some three miles north of the City of Mecca. It was the 27th night of the Muslim month of Ramadaan. In the cave the Archangel Gabriel commands him in his mother tongue: ‘IQRA’ which means READ! or PROCLAIM! or RECITE! During the next twenty-three years of his prophetic life, words were ‘Put into his mouth’, and he uttered them. The words (revelation) were actually put into his mouth, exactly as foretold in the prophecy under discusion: ‘AND I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.’ (Deut. 18:18). In the verse 19 of Deuteronomy chapter 18, we have a further fulfilment of the prophecy in Muhummed! Note the words-’…..MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME,” In whose name is Muhummed speaking….. “IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.” Quran 113, “IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL” Quran 112, 111, 110, etc. Every chapter of the Holy Qur’an except the 9th begin with the formula: IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.’

2. You say THE “HE” IN Deuteronomy 33: 2 IS REFLEXIVE…TO GOD, NOT TO ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL. However, According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Mecca). Prophet Muhammad is the holy offspring of Ishmael through Kedar, who settled in the wilderness of Paran. Muhammad is the only Prophet through whom the Arabs received revelation at the time when the darkness had covered the earth. Through him God shone from Paran. Furthermore, since it was prophesied the “Lord came with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him”. (Jude 1:14-15) . according to the Islamic history, the city of Mecca (Paran) was liberated by Prophet Muhammad’s 10,000-men army. The irrefutable historical proofs for this are located in this article: The story of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible. Now, since these prophecies were foretold in the Bible’s Old Testament, I would like to openly challenge any Jewish Rabbi or Christian Priest or Minister to answer the following question for me: Where in the Bible do we see any Prophet executing the Judgement of GOD Almighty specifically in the city of Paran (Mecca, the city that Abraham took Hagar and Ishmael to)? If Muhammad who liberated the city of Paran (Mecca) with 10,000 Believing Men (Saints) wasn’t the one who fulfilled this Biblical Prophecy, then who was that Prophet? Wasn’t Muhammad through the Divine Religion of Islam the one who ended the idol worshiping of the 365 gods, and ended the brutal slavery and the torturing of women (burying daughters alive at the age of 4 was the pagan Arabs custom)? Didn’t Muhammad bring the Arabs from the total darkness of polytheism and evil to the Light of Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and associated no partners with Him? Wasn’t Muhammad fruitful, and a true man of GOD? Before you respond to this point, please also think about tell me how you think how “the Lord came from Sinai, and rose from Seir”.

3. You have not stated the meaning of the word PARACLETOS. If you are to refer it to the holy ghost this cannot be taken as the Holy Ghost, as says Jesus, “for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you, but if I depart I will send him unto you.” The words clearly show that the Comforter had to come after the departure of Jesus, and was not with him when he uttered these words. The church believes Jesus and the holy ghost are one, therefore one cannot be there without the other. Furthermore, since “He shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear that he shall speak”, agains they cannot be the same. Therefore, as I said before this verse refrs to Prophet Muhammad who spoke the word of God and offered for the Jews to follw this also, but they declined.

Pay attention now, although he was not a Jew, If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs – so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.’ (Genesis 16:12). ‘AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israelites because he was a descendant of Ishmael the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- ‘FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN’.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the ‘children of Israel’ or from ‘among themselves’, but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!

The emphasis here is on the word “ANOTHER,” an other, a different one, an additional one, but of the same kind, yet distinctly different from the first. Who is then the first Comforter? The Christian world is unanimous that in this case the speaker himself — Jesus Christ (pbuh) is the first Comforter; then the other, the one to follow must be of like nature, subject to the same conditions of hunger, thirst, fatigue, sorrow and death.

And also, that New Testament times, we find that the Jews were still expecting the fulfilment of the prophecy of ‘ONE LIKE MOSES’, refer John 1:19-25. When Jesus claimed to be the Messiah of the Jews, the Jews began to enquire as to where was Elias? The Jews had a parallel prophecy that before the coming of the Messiah, Elias must come first in his second coming. Jesus confirms this Jewish belief:

“…….ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, AND RESTORE ALL THINGS. BUT I SAY UNTO YOU, THAT ELIAS IS COME ALREADY, AND THEY KNEW HIM NOT,…THEN THE DISCIPLES UNDERSTOOD THAT HE SPAKE UNTO THEM OF JOHN THE BAPTIST.” (Matthew 17:11-13).

However, When questions of 1) ART THOU THE CHRIST?, 2) ART THOU ELIAS?, 3) ART THOU THAT PROPHET? were posed to John the Baptist by the Jewish elite- “ART THOU THAT PROPHET? AND HE ANSWERED, NO.” (John 1:21) The Jews were waiting for the fulfilment of THREE distinct prophecies: One, the coming of CHRIST. Two the coming of ELIAS, and Three, the coming of THAT PROPHET. ..and who was ‘THAT PROPHET?

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words “the Prophet”, or “that Prophet” occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that ‘that prophet’ – ‘the prophet like Moses’ – “LIKE UNTO THEE”, we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED

My response to this harangue was necessarily short, unfortunately.

John 14:16-17: “…he will give you another Counselor [Comforter, Advocate – PARAKLETOS] to be with you forever — the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be [or, is] in you.” and John 14:26: “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.” Clearly, Jesus taught that the PARAKLETOS was the Holy Spirit. Also, how can the PARAKLETOS be Muhammad if he is to be “IN YOU”?

The Church, BTW, does not believe that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are identical. Also, I did not define parakletos previously because you already had.

Deut 18:15: “The LORD [YHWH] your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers.” and Deut 34:10-12: “Since then, no prophet has risen IN ISRAEL like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, who did all those miraculous signs and wonders the LORD sent him to do in Egypt—to Pharaoh and to all his officials and to his whole land. For no one has ever shown the mighty power or performed the awesome deeds that Moses did in the sight of all Israel.” Again, it is clear that the expected prophet “like Moses” would come from Israel, would know God “face to face”, and would do “miraculous signs and wonders”. Also, consider the Edomites (children of Edom/Esau)…Jacob (Israel) and Esau are closer in time to the Israelites of Moses’ time than Isaac and Ishmael…yet the descendants of Edom are not considered “brethren” to the Israelites, but rather a separate people.

One more thing. The Biblical wilderness of Paran was in the Northeast of the Sinai peninsula…hundreds of miles from Mecca.

Stay tuned for Part 3!

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Who is That Prophet?

Posted by Godefroi on November 24, 2008

This is part of a “debate” I engaged in with a Muslim in England.  If you’re not into exegesis, proof-texts, and such, feel free to skip this one.

The opening salvo:

MOSES IS HIGHLY REGARDED IN ISLAM AS THE GREAT PROPHET WHO FORETOLD THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD, HIS SUCCESSOR… THERE IS MUCH IN THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD THAT IS IMPLICITLY REMINISCENT OF THE MOSES TRADITION.

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren,like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.” Deuteronomy 18:18.

And he (Moses) said, the Lord came from Sinai, and rose from Seir unto them; he shined Forth from mount Paran (that is in Arabia), and he (Muhummed) came with Ten Thousand Saints:3from his right hand went a fiery law For them.Deuteronomy 33: 2

Also, “Ahmed”, or “Muhummed”, the Praised one, is almost a translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the present Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7, the word “Comforter” in the English version for the Greek word “Paracletos”, which means “Advocate”, “one called to the help of another, a kind friend”, rather than “Comforter”. Our doctors contend that Paracletos is a corrupt reading for Periclytos and that in the original saying of Jesus there was a prophecy of our holy Prophet Ahmed by name. Even if we read Paraclete, it would imply to the Holy Prophet, who is “a Mercy for all creatures” (H.Q. 21:107) and “most kind and merciful to the Believers” (H.Q. 9:128) See also note 416 to H.Q. 3:81.

Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come. He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will show you things to come. john 16: 13

Please note the Comforter in John 14: 26 can never be the “Holy Ghost” because Jesus (pbuh) had already explained—

And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you Another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.John 14: 16

According to the rules of logic therefore, one is brought to see in John’s Paraclete a human being like Jesus, possessing the faculties of hearing and speech formally implied in John’s Greek text. Jesus therefore predicts that God will later send a human being to Earth to take up the role defined by John, i.e. to be a prophet who hears God’s word and repeats his message to man. This is the logical interpretation of John’s texts arrived at if one attributes to the words their proper meaning.

Again, do you know what this means?

And the first rejoinder:

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End Anti-Christian Bigotry!

Posted by Godefroi on November 14, 2008

Around the world, Christians are being increasingly targeted, and even persecuted, for their religious beliefs.  Now, one of the largest organizations in the United Nations is pushing to make a bad situation even worse by promoting anti-Christian bigotry wrapped in the guise of a U.N. resolution called “Combating Defamation of Religions.”  We must put an immediate end to this most recent, dangerous attack on faith that attempts to criminalize Christianity.  Please read the form below carefully and declare your membership with the ACLJ by adding your name to our PETITION OPPOSING THE ORGANIZATION OF THE ISLAMIC CONFERENCE.

via ACLJ.

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